Is that a difficult one, then with the, with the BADT hat on them that you have to be
representing. Therapists, um, generally, but at the same time
you, you're pushing for a pushing for something that is going to pay them less compared to
dentists doing the same standard work.
And It grates a little bit.
for those for those who are only listening to this on audio,
check out the video of Fiona's face when she said that because it's a picture.
It grates a little bit, yeah.
Um, Yeah, it it it's great, but
Like I say, you know, I, I appreciate that dentistry is a business.
I get that, and I understand, you know, you have overheads and you have costs and,
and all of that. So I'm not, you know, I, I'm not saying,
you know, just pay us more because we deserve it.
What I'm saying is that they, you know, we, we need to make a living.
We need it to be fair, you know, hopefully we want to retire.
So let us have those benefits.
It doesn't, it doesn't necessarily mean the cold hard cash.
I mean, if you, if you're a dentist and you do some CPD.
Um, delivered by a deanery or It is in Wales, health education improvement,
Nest in Scotland, Nimda in Northern Ireland and, and workforce training and education in England
as a dentist.
You can claim mileage, you can claim sustenance, and you can claim,
you know, to go to do CPD.
If you're me. Nada.
Yeah, it's not right. So that's just tiny.
But why, why am I different?
Yeah, OK, so pay me a little bit less, but give me some of the benefits.
I, you know, I'm not, I'm not asking.
I don't want to drive a Maserati.
Just, just, just be fair, you know.
That, that's my thing, you know, the pension's one thing,
but you know, just that, that whole section two thing about CPD.
Like, why am I not allowed that? Just the little things,
you know, and, and it's that appreciation, rather than this,
and I do genuinely feel this, and it pains me to say it,
but I feel like it's like, oh, just oh, let them, let them open courses of treatment.
Oh, let them have local. They'll be happy.
Let the old girls do that.
Go on, it'll be all right.
They'll be pleased with that.
Let them open a course of treatment, they'll think they've got it.
Yeah, actually, we're not, we're not.
Girls, we're not.
You know, we're trained professionals and actually, you know,
a lot of us have been doing a, you know, well, I think everybody does a very good job,
you know, they work hard, they've trained hard. It's not an easy course to to pass that it's
also quite competitive to get into it. So, you know,
we're not, it's not like.
You know, it's, it's comparable, and I just feel that.
Oh, we, we're educated, we're trained professionals, we're safe,
you know, look at our FTP record, you know, we're honourable professionals,
and, and we're treated, or there's, even if we're not treated,
there's this um.
I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, not assumption,
but this. Come on, Eddie, you're a journalist,
you know, um.
No, it's almost like yeah, patronising view of us as a
female, uh, workforce that, you know, they'll go off and have a few babies come back and
they'll just be happy.
Honestly, it's not like that anymore, you know, that was,
you know, back in the New Cross days when we were, you know.
Seem to be able to work just in one place and you know,
treat them like that. Actually, no, no, not anymore,
you know, we're the same and I just feel that.
You know, it's about time that That the the dental population respected us as such,
um, and, and the governors, you know, people in power, NHS,
Department of Health. You know, see it's like that really.

Fiona Sandom: The treatment of dental therapists compared to dentists

16 June 2025

Dental therapist, dental educator and past president of the BADT, Fiona Sandom, discusses the differences in treatment and benefits between dental hygienists, dental therapists and dentists.

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